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伟大作家真的会偷吗?
Do Great Writers Really Steal?
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这篇文章讨论“伟大作家真的会偷吗”,把抄袭问题放回出版与创作生态里看:点子本身不稀奇,真正稀缺的是把点子写好的能力。对写作者来说,它提醒你别把原创性理解成“没人想过的题材”,而要理解成你怎么组合、变形和落实前人的影响。
可以直接用的写作要点
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点子廉价、执行昂贵:与其苦苦寻找没人写过的题材,不如把力气花在把一个普通点子上写到最好。
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原创性常发生在“组合与变异”上:大胆借用你敬佩的作家的想法,但用只有你能想到的方式把它们拼起来、改造掉。
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警惕无意的撞车:灵感有时是多年前读过的内容重新浮上来,重要想法落笔前先回头核查来源。
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好概念不等于好作品:很多作品有惊艳的设定却迅速浪费掉,写作时要问自己这个点子到底被展开了没有。
HN 评论精选
点子不值钱,把点子执行好才值钱;有潜力的概念若没被展开就毫无价值。
还有一个事实:点子很容易想到,所以廉价;好的执行很难,所以昂贵。看看那些本质上很公式化却大获成功的作品,再看看那些拿着有趣概念却把它糟蹋掉的作品。我发现有些B级片里有“潜力瞬间”,或者暗示出惊人的聪明概念,但很快就丢失了、不了了之。你常常能挖出某个概念的冷门前身,然后发现它默默无闻是有道理的——即使在当时它们也不够好。
Nasrudith查看英文原文
There is also the fact that ideas are easy and thus cheap - good execution is hard and thus expensive. Look at grand successes that are essentially formulaic and others which take interesting concepts and squander them. I have found some B-movies have 'moments of potential' or shockingly intelligent concepts hinted at that are quickly lost or go nowhere. One can often dig up obscure precursors to a concept - and find that there is a good reason that it remained obscure that they weren't very good even when released.
原创性不在于点子本身,而在于你组合、变异前人想法的方式。
我认为伟大的艺术是通过某种演化过程发展出来的。每个人都受自己敬佩的作家影响,好点子因此被复制。但好点子本身不足以吸引读者,所以作者必须创造性地组合和变异这些点子。Harold Bloom 称之为“影响的焦虑”。他们借来的想法也许算是偷的,但他们组合这些想法的方式可能不是。
briga查看英文原文
I think great art develops through a sort of evolutionary process. Everyone is influenced by the writer's they admire and so the good ideas get replicated. But good ideas by themselves aren't enough to attract an audience, so authors have to creatively combine and mutate those ideas. Harold Bloom called this the "anxiety of influence". The ideas they copy might be stolen, but the ways they combine those ideas might not be.
无意的记忆撞车很常见,最好在发布前主动核查灵感的来源。
“不过话说回来,有些想法就是会黏在你脑子里,不知不觉又浮上来。我毫不怀疑每个作者都曾无意中想到一个点子,而那其实是多年前读过的东西。”——太对了,尤其是那些核心想法很精简、很小的作品,比如音乐里的一段riff。我有几个乐手朋友曾兴奋不已,以为自己在写一首基于一个超酷riff的歌,后来才发现那个riff出现在他们十年前听过的一支曲子里,一直卡在某人脑袋的某个角落。他们是在无意中抄袭的,也是无意中发现的——否则很可能就把这首歌推出去,然后被人叫作剽窃者。
Hasknewbie查看英文原文
"Then again, sometimes ideas simply stick with you and resurface unknowingly. I have no doubt that every author has inadvertently thought of an idea that was actually something they read about years ago" This. Especially on topics where the work is based predominently on a concise/small core idea, such a tune in music. I once had musician friends psyched that they were writing a song based on a really cool riff, only to discover later that said riff was in a track they had heard a decade ago, and that had stuck in a corner of someone's head. They had copied by accident. And they found that out by accident, too, and might very well have ended up pushing a track that would have had them getting called plagiarists.
在抄袭争议中,名气决定了谁的话有人信,新人作者更该自己留好创作记录。
“经纪人和编辑不会扣下稿子去抢点子(就算真这么干,他们也会挑 James Patterson 这种已被验证的畅销品牌,而不是一个没经过检验的新人作者。)”——我猜知名作家有名声去对抗这种事,而小人物没人会信。
marcelluspye查看英文原文
>Agents and editors do not hold onto manuscripts to pillage for ideas (and if they did they would do so with a proven commodity like James Patterson and not an untested debut author.) I would guess that big name authors would have the reputation to fight back against that kind of thing. Whereas no one is going to believe the little guy.
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