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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作方法2018news.ycombinator.com

    Ask HN:有人在业余时间进行学术写作吗?

    Ask HN: Does anyone do academic writing in their own time?

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    这篇 HN 讨论回答了“业余时间能否做学术写作”的问题:多位评论者分享了自己在非学术职业中发表论文、写博客或开源项目的经验。对写作者而言,它揭示了正式写作的门槛没有想象中高,关键在于找到反馈、选对渠道并持续行动。

    关键词 业余写作学术发表反馈渠道写作门槛

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      业余时间也能写学术论文,先从小型会议或工作坊开始,读往届论文了解格式和惯例。

    2. 02

      不必执着于期刊发表,把研究成果写成博客或上传 GitHub 也能满足写作欲,且更透明、更快。

    3. 03

      主动寻找愿意审阅和给反馈的人,这比独自写作更能推动你完成。

    4. 04

      学术写作中引言、推销成果等部分可能枯燥,可调整形式或渠道,聚焦于自己真正感兴趣的内容。

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    业余也能发表正式学术论文,甚至获得经济回报。

    我不追求学术生涯,是自由职业者,但近年发表了两篇密码学论文(USENIX Security 和 WOOT),其中一篇还因漏洞赏金获得经济收益。

    hannob查看英文原文

    I don't pursue an academic career, I'm a freelancer doing various things, yet I published two cryptographic papers in recent years (at real scientific conferences, one at USENIX Security, other at USENIX WOOT). In one case it was even financially viable due to bug bounties. https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity18/presentation/bock https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/woot16/woot16-paper-bock.pdf

    业余学术写作可行,关键在找反馈和调整形式,不必担心机构身份。

    研究生毕业后我业余写了几篇学术论文,不比在校时难多少,只是占用晚上和周末,还需找人审阅反馈。会议录用后自费参会,但乐在其中。很多人业余写作,学术主题也可投稿。难点可能是时间、研究、动力或对非学术身份的担忧。其实不做期刊发表也能做研究写作,很多博客文章稍加形式化就是论文。

    dahart查看英文原文

    I’ve written a few academic papers on my own time after grad school. It wasn’t much harder than writing papers while in school, it just took some nights & weekends time, and I had to work a little to find people willing and capable of reviewing the papers and giving feedback. It cost a bit of personal money to present at a conference whenever a paper was accepted, but it was what I wanted to do so it never bothered me. I’m not sure I understand the question though, what seems like the hardest part of writing, what is stopping you from doing it now? Lots and lots of people write in their spare time, and there are plenty who write on academic topics and submit papers to journals and conferences. Is it finding the time, or doing the research? Being motivated, or fear about being accepted as an academic while not part of an academic institution? FWIW, you can certainly research & write on academic topics without trying to publish in journals. Plenty of people have blogs with articles that could be journal papers if they had only a splash of formality. Lots of people are more interested in doing the reading & writing than they are in publishing. Quite a few people like that here on HN.

    发表论文门槛不高,从小的会议开始,格式像技术博客,核心是研究质量。

    我没做,但鼓励尝试。除了做好研究,发表论文没有大障碍,也没有想象的门槛。从小会议或工作坊开始,读往届论文了解格式风格,然后按时提交。和写好的技术博客差不多。研究本身要好,有人被拒是因为没有真正的研究贡献,而非 outsider。

    chrisseaton查看英文原文

    I don't, but if you are interested in doing this then you should definitely give it a go. Beside actually doing good research in the first place, there should not be major barriers to writing and publishing a paper and I don't think there is the kind of gatekeeping that people think there is. Pick a small conference or workshop to start with, read a few papers from previous years to understand the format, style and conventions of the medium, and then you just write and upload your paper by the deadline. There's no more ceremony or secrets than that compared to writing a good technical blog post. Of course, your research has to be good in the first place. I've seen people try to write papers and get them knocked back and they think it's because they're outsider, when in reality they didn't actually have a research contribution in the first place.

    用 GitHub 等非正式渠道替代正式论文,快速透明,满足研究兴趣。

    前学术人员现做技术,怀念研究但没时间耐心走同行评审,且觉得引言和推销成果枯燥。我的办法是把研究结果上传 GitHub,复现论文并做小贡献,在相关论坛讨论。比写完整论文快,且透明可复现,成为充实的爱好。

    phonebucket查看英文原文

    I am a former academic now working in tech. In the past year I have missed research. I don't have the time or patience to go through the whole peer-review process in my spare time. Furthermore, some aspects of peer-reviewed scientific writing are quite boring to me e.g. introductions, trying to sell the importance of your results. Instead, I find that I can scratch my research itch by doing what I want, then uploading the results to GitHub. So far I've re-implemented a couple of recently published papers, and put in a modest contribution of my own. If you want some discussion on your work, you can turn to a pertinent online forum. Apart from being much faster than writing a full paper, another advantage is transparency and reproducibility. It has become a fulfilling hobby.

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