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工程师们二十年里聊过的写作。

工程师、作家、编辑和创业者在 Hacker News 上聊了二十年“怎么写”:怎么写得清楚、怎么讲好一个故事、技术文档怎么写、小说和出版是怎么回事。这里把其中关于写作与讲故事的帖子挑出来,配上中文导读、可以直接用的写作要点和评论翻译。

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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

    2. 02

      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    博客与个人写作2018medium.com

    用 Medium 写博客是个糟糕的选择

    Medium is a poor choice for blogging

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    作者吐槽 Medium 作为博客平台的问题:阅读体验被弹窗、广告和花哨界面破坏,内容也不真正属于作者。对写作者而言,这篇讨论的核心是平台选择与写作自由之间的权衡——是追求省事和现成流量,还是掌控自己的文字与呈现方式。

    关键词 博客平台内容所有权写作门槛阅读体验

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      发布平台的选择会影响读者体验:弹窗、广告和干扰元素会赶走认真阅读的人。

    2. 02

      拥有自己的内容很重要:把文章存在自己可控制的格式(如 Markdown 或纯文本)里,不依赖单一平台。

    3. 03

      写作的门槛越低越好:如果技术搭建让你分心,选一个开箱即用的方案,把精力留给内容本身。

    4. 04

      简洁的排版往往胜过花哨的设计——博客本质上就是屏幕上的文字。

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    平台会不可避免地走向商业化,写作者应尽早用 Markdown 加静态站点掌控自己的内容。

    有意思的是,当年 Medium 兴起时大家都在夸界面好看,少数反对的声音没人听。现在我们得靠各种插件和屏蔽工具才能在通勤时读完一篇五分钟的文章。都 2018 年了,掌控自己内容的方式多得是。下一个承诺“干净无干扰”的免费框架,多半最终也会加广告,因为公司要赚钱。我的建议是:直接写 Markdown,用任意一个静态网站生成器托管,或者 fork 一个现成框架,复制粘贴进去就完事了。

    tpaschalis查看英文原文

    It's funny, because some years ago when Medium blogs were starting to be posted left and right, people were praising the interface, and nobody listened to the few who objected. Now, we need all kinds of tricks, add-ons and blocks to just read five-minute posts during our commute. It's 2018, and there are a gazillion ways to get yourself in control of your stuff. The next free framework that comes, which promises a clean, non-distracting view, will also (most probably) eventually add advertisements, because, well, corporations need money. In my humble opinion, just write your Markdown files, and use one of the bajillion Static Sites Generators to create/host them, or fork a framework that already does this such as [1], copy-paste them in, and you're set. [1] https://github.com/barryclark/jekyll-now

    Medium 的优势在于零门槛:对大多数普通写作者来说,省事比掌控权更重要。

    我很惊讶这么多人建议用静态网站生成器替代 WordPress 或 Medium。要明白,Medium 上 99% 的读者和作者根本不懂这些词,也不知道从哪开始。这正是 Medium 赢的地方:它看起来不错,让文章显得专业,而且不给你任何选择——不用选主题、不用配置,注册(甚至用 Twitter/Facebook 登录)然后直接写就行。别指望 Medium 上的写作者愿意折腾静态网站生成器。

    jypepin查看英文原文

    I'm amazed at how many people here say that people should simply use a static site generator instead of wordpress or medium. Does anyone else understand that probably 99% of Medium traffic (both reader and writer) don't even understand those words and would have no idea even where to begin? Most of them probably had trouble just signing up on Medium and already forgot their passwords. This is where Medium wins. It looks ok, makes posts look professional, and doesn't give any choices. You don't have to choose a theme, or setup anything. Signup (or even, login with twitter/facebook) and just write. Done. You can't possibly hope that any writer on Medium is ready or interested in a static site generator.

    博客的本质就是纯文本,专有平台的弹窗和干扰反而毁掉了阅读体验。

    读这类文章时我觉得自己已经超脱了。整个网络变成了一滩泥潭,没人记得它以前的样子。博客就是屏幕上的一个文本文件,完全没必要用专有系统——你可以把文本文件传到自己的主机,懒得折腾就用 GitHub Pages。想要图片?一个 <img> 标签就够了。如果嫌不够好看——Medium 的博客根本谈不上好看,因为关掉前三轮弹窗后我就把页面关了。

    esotericn查看英文原文

    Sometimes I read articles like this and think I'm past it. It's like the whole web has turned in to this pool of mud and no-one realises what it was like before. A blog is a text file on a screen. There's really no need to do it on a proprietary system, you can literally upload a text file to your own host, but if you can't be bothered, somewhere like GitHub Pages. You want an image? Here's a tag: <img> If the idea is that it doesn't look pretty enough - well, a Medium blog doesn't look like anything at all because I've closed it after closing the first three popups. Here is a link to my own personal blog: https://files.esotericnonsense.com/public/blog.txt You're reading this comment right now on a site that gets it right.

    Medium 赢在易用、好看和流量承诺,而普通人并不在意维护成本和内容所有权。

    这个话题经常出现。作为 Medium 用户和管理过多个 WordPress 博客的人,我认为 Medium 流行的原因:1. 简单,我们这些技术人常低估这一点;2. 零成本就能比普通博客主题好看;3. 承诺触达更大受众(即使兑现不了);4. 点赞和浏览量带来多巴胺快感。而普通博主不在乎的是:维护服务器、买域名、配 WordPress、删垃圾评论这些负担;内容所有权;以及 RSS——我敢打赌 80% 以上的博主不知道还有人用 RSS。

    almostarockstar查看英文原文

    This topic comes up fairly often. I think about it a lot - as a Medium user and as a person who has managed multiple wordpress blogs. ##Here's my thoughts on why Medium is so popular: 1. It's easy. We are all techies here. We often underestimate the weight of this. 2. It looks better than your average blog theme. (With 0 effort) 3. It promises the opportunity to access a larger audience. (Even if it does not deliver on that promise) 4. It provides an endorphin rush though likes/claps and the analytics/view counts. ##What the average blogger doesn't care about: 1. Effort Overhead. Managing a web server, buying a domain, configuring a wordpress blog, updating wordpress, choosing a theme, deleting spam comments etc. 2. Content ownership. Most people don't think about it that much. 3. RSS feeds. I'm willing to bet >80% of bloggers have no idea that people still use RSS (or even what it is at this stage) ------ I don't think Medium is perfect, but I also don't think any of the alternatives are good enough either.

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