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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作方法2011writing.wisc.edu编辑精选

    如何写出清晰、简洁的句子

    Writing Clear, Concise, Sentences

    阅读原文 HN 讨论
    272HN 得分
    71条评论
    4条写作要点

    导读

    这篇 Wisconsin 写作手册页面讲如何写出清晰、简洁的句子;评论补充说这些原则有效,但别当成僵硬规则,被动语态、长词和长句也能服务节奏与文体。写作者可借此练习删繁就简,同时学会按目的、读者和场合灵活调配句子长短与语体。

    关键词 清晰简洁句子写作写作风格标点与节奏

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      先删掉不承载信息的词,优先用具体动词和直接结构,让读者一眼抓住主干。

    2. 02

      不要把“短”当唯一目标:长句、长词和被动语态在需要节奏、变化或特定语气时仍可使用。

    3. 03

      动笔前明确目的与读者,正式场合用正式语体,随意场合用随意语体,清晰简洁始终是底线。

    4. 04

      用“节奏耳”检查长短句搭配:避免一连串短句显得生硬,也避免长句堆叠变得臃肿。

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    原则应灵活运用,被动、长词和长句可作为节奏与文体工具,底线是清晰简洁并匹配场合。

    这里列出的原则合理且有帮助,照着做写作风格无疑会改善。但不要把她们当成僵化规则,否则表达力会受损。被动语态有其存在理由;长词能给文章增加变化、节奏和色彩;长句能带来一连串短句无法达到的流动感。关键是在掌握清晰简洁原则后,用有节奏的耳朵平衡表达:需要时使用被动、长词和流畅长句,但始终以清晰简洁、让读者按你的目的容易理解为底线,正式场合用正式风格,随意场合用随意风格。

    grellas查看英文原文

    The principles listed here are sound and helpful. If you follow them, your writing style will undoubtedly improve. But do not adhere to them as rigid rules or you will suffer in your ability to express yourself. Passive voice exists for a reason. Long words can add variety, rhythm, and color to your prose. Elongated sentences can help give your writing a flow that a mere parade of short sentences can never hope to achieve, not even after a thousand rewrites. Or not. All such items can be misused as well, and the books are replete with bloated forms of expression used by lawyers, politicians, educators, administrators, and the like who would not know a simple word or sentence even if it stood before them doing somersaults. The key is to know sound principles for clear and concise writing and then to apply them with a rhythmic ear for balance in your forms of expression. That means, yes, use passive voice, long words, and flowing sentences as needed to add grace to your prose but always with the baseline in mind: that is, to communicate in ways that are clear and concise and that people will readily understand for your stated purpose (formal style for formal settings, casual for casual, and whatever fits for anything in between). I note all this because, years ago, I consciously and diligently set about to attempt to master writing and stumbled upon the rock of "simplicity" during such stretches in my learning process where I had assumed that all one could do was follow such rules. Any attempt to apply such rules one-dimensionally is a mistake, and you will regret trying it. Follow sound principles, by all means, but not dogmatically. The other major keys to good writing are depth of language skills and extensive reading. No one will read your work unless you have something helpful to say. You get this by working hard to develop your skills, and lots of writing (and reading) is vital to this process.

    标题中第二个逗号多余,提醒写作者注意标点准确性。

    我确信第二个逗号不该有。我一般不会评论逗号,但这似乎切题……

    sp332查看英文原文

    I'm positive the second comma shouldn't be there. (I wouldn't normally comment on commas, but it seems on-topic...)

    指南服务于“简洁”风格而非普适最佳,短句可能生硬,需按目标选择。

    我读到的有些评论似乎误解了这页的目的。这不是客观上最好的写作风格,而是一种简洁的写作风格。它可能不是最悦读的,因为极度直给的短句听起来生硬。如果你瞄准的就是这种风格,这些写短句和简洁句的准则非常有用。

    SlyShy查看英文原文

    Some of the comments I've read seem to misunderstand the purpose of this page. This isn't the objectively best writing style, this is a concise writing style. No, it might not be the most pleasant to read, because extremely to-the-point short sentences sound blunt. The guidelines provided for writing short and concise sentences are very useful, if that's the style you are aiming for.

    推荐一本对技术人友好的清晰优雅写作书。

    这些建议似乎模仿了《Style: Towards Clarity and Grace》的很多内容;我是从 Richard Gabriel 那里知道这本书的,它大概是对黑客最友好的写作书。

    tptacek查看英文原文

    This advice seems to mimic much of what's in _Style: Towards Clarity and Grace_, which I found out about from Richard Gabriel (achievement unlocked: LISP connection) and which is probably the most hacker-friendly writing book ever written.

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