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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作方法2021sashachapin.substack.com编辑精选

    如果你遇到写作瓶颈,也许该停止撒谎

    If You Have Writer's Block, Maybe You Should Stop Lying

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    这篇文章提出一个不太客气的诊断:很多时候所谓的“写作障碍”并不是能力问题,而是回避——你不肯写自己真正相信的东西,于是用“卡住了”当借口。它值得写作者一读,因为它把“写不出来”从技术问题还原成了诚实问题,同时评论区也补上了这个论点覆盖不到的部分。

    关键词 写作障碍诚实写作自我审查脆弱性

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      下次卡住时先问自己:我是在找不到词,还是在回避说出真实想法?两种病的药方完全不同。

    2. 02

      区分两种不适:因言不由衷而生的愧疚感要立刻改道,因暴露自我而来的羞耻感往往说明你走对了路。

    3. 03

      别把“诚实”当成不用做功课的借口——缺经验、缺理解、想法还没成形,也会真的写不出来,那就先去经历和想清楚。

    4. 04

      试着写你并不认同的立场,这个过程反过来能帮你确认自己到底相信什么。

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    回避感有两种:良心的不安该改道,脆弱的羞耻该坚持——关键是学会分辨。

    我完全认同作者,但回避感的来源其实有两种,方向相反:一是我没写真心话时,会有一种模糊的愧疚,写作变得不像分享,而像被告在证人席上拼凑不在场证明;二是我写了真心话时,会有另一种不适——像不小心把写给爱人的私密诗发到了朋友圈,因为脆弱而怕被攻击。难的是这两种感觉很像,应对方式却相反:若是良心不安,要改方向;若是暴露的羞耻,通常说明路走对了。我花了好几年内省才学会分辨。

    munificent查看英文原文

    I love this article with all my heart. Does it apply to 100% of writer's block? Of course not. The kind of writing that is so careful to qualify every claim to the point that it's a chore to read is exactly what the author is railing against. I believe strongly that they are right that avoidance is one of the key reasons people who want to write don't. One of the challenges I've experienced is that that sensation of avoidance can from two opposing sources: 1. If I'm not saying what I really feel, I get a vague sense of guilt and unease. I feel insincere and it makes me shy away from writing. It starts to feel less like I'm sharing and more like I'm a guilty defendent on the witness stand trying to assemble a convincing alibi. My conscience keeps telling me I'm going down the wrong path. 2. When I am saying what I really feel, I get a different discomfort. I feel this blushing cringe, like I accidentally posted private poetry meant for a lover to my Facebook feed. I am being vulnerable and exposing myself to attack. My sense of self-protection tells me I'm taking a risk. The hard part is that these two sensations can feel quite similar but the way to take action on them is directly opposed. If it's my conscious making me squirm, I need to change course. But when it's my vulnerability, it usually means I'm on the right path. It's taken me years and a lot of introspection to learn to tease these apart. On good days, I'm able to lean into the discomfort of the latter and avoid the former so that I can say something I truly believe is worth saying.

    写作障碍还有缺经验、缺理解、想法未成形等原因,代入他人立场写作本身也有价值。

    我觉得这篇文章说得有点绝对。一个题目难写,除了不诚实之外还有很多常见原因:缺乏亲身经历(得先去做那件事才能写得出来)、缺乏理解(还没真正消化知识)、想法尚未成形(还无法把感受凝结成说得通的句子)。发自内心地写当然有价值,但即便是作者所说的“撒谎”,在写作过程中去探索他人立场也有价值——这既能验证自己真正相信什么,也能更好地理解你不同意的人。

    twodave查看英文原文

    IMO this article comes off a little strong. It's not all that uncommon for a topic to be difficult to write about for a variety of reasons besides dishonesty. I can think of several off hand: - Lack of experience (you're blocked because you need to go do something first in order to be able to relate first-hand about it) - Lack of knowledge (you're blocked because you don't yet fully understand your subject, or you have the head knowledge but haven't really assimilated it yet) - Lack of coherence (you're blocked because you haven't yet been able to condense your feelings on the subject into words that make sense) Is there a value in writing straight from the heart? Of course there is. But even in "lying", as the author puts it, there is value in exploring the positions of others through the writing process. This is a great way to validate what one DOES believe as well as to better understand those one might disagree with.

    作者戳破了“被迫写作还不能承认不想写”的伪装,但这个诊断只适用于部分情况。

    这篇文章有种“你们全是假货”的腔调,我又爱又恨。这种乐观的刻薄在西方尤其北美很不受欢迎,我们活在乐观主义的暴政下。齐泽克说得很好:我们不仅被强迫做不想做的事,还被要求表现得好像很爱做。这让我想到英国收银员——他们显然不想扫你的货、跟你闲聊,而且几乎不加掩饰。一开始我很震惊,后来反而欣赏。所以我把作者理解为:你不仅被迫写你不想写的东西,还不能承认你不想写,只好借口说自己卡住了——你这个大假货。这对某些情况是成立的洞察,但我不认为适用于所有情况。

    reggieband查看英文原文

    This article has a very "you're all a bunch of phoneys" kinda vibe that I both love and hate. I think this kind of optimistic cynicism is much derided in Western culture and especially so in North America where we live under the tyranny of optimism. I think Žižek described it well and I would paraphrase his insight as, not only are we coerced to do things that we don't want to do, we are also expected to act as if we love doing them. It reminds me of British customer service. If you haven't lived in the UK you might not be familiar with the phenomenon of a checkout person being surly. They clearly don't want to be scanning your groceries or engaging in inane chit-chat with you. And they have almost no pretence about that fact. At first it was a shock to me but after some time I grew to appreciate it. It's a similar observation many who have lived in both New York and California make about the general difference in phoneyness between the coasts. New Yorkers may seem assertive/rude/cold at first but you will soon love the fact you always know where you stand. So I interpret the author as saying: not only are you being forced to write about something you don't want to write about, you can't even admit you don't want to write about it. Instead you make excuses like you are blocked, you big phoney. While that is likely to be a valid insight for some cases, I don't believe that it applies to all cases.

    “用词语思考”是后天习得的技能,并非人人天然如此,有人因此长期写作吃力。

    我有书写障碍(Dysgraphia)。除非有意识地把想法翻译成词句,我并不是用语言思考的;我没有内心独白,除非正在琢磨怎么把想法变成话。对我来说使用书面语言需要刻意费力,口语稍好一点——我基本上处于永久性的写作障碍中。这位作者似乎认为人人都天然用词语思考,而不是把这当成一项学到手、熟练到不自觉的技能。

    SAI_Peregrinus查看英文原文

    I have Dysgraphia[1]. I don't think in words, without conscious effort to translate my thoughts into words. I don't have an inner monologue unless I'm trying to think of how to put my thoughts into words (or otherwise thinking with language, eg pretending to narrate what's going on around me). It takes me conscious effort to use written language, and a bit less effort for verbal language; I essentially have permanent writer's block. This person seems to think that everyone naturally thinks in words, instead of that being a skill they learned and got good enough at that they don't even notice it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

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