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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作与思考2021byrnehobart.medium.com

    写作是内向者的社交网络

    Writing is networking for introverts

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    这篇文章把写作看作内向者的一种"人脉网络":不必在酒会上消耗精力闲聊,而是通过文字吸引志同道合的人来找你。对写作者来说,它提供了一个重新理解"为什么要公开发表"的角度——写作不只是自我表达,也是建立连接的低成本方式。评论区则补充了几个现实问题:内向不等于社交笨拙,文字被读到本身就很难,以及写作有时会成为逃避真实情绪的挡箭牌。

    关键词 写作与社交内向者分发与读者公开写作

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      先想清楚"写作是为了吸引谁来对话",再决定写什么、发在哪里,而不是写完才发愁没人看。

    2. 02

      把写作当成省力的社交:与其在场合里硬撑闲聊,不如用一篇文字筛选出真正同频的读者。

    3. 03

      承认自己的观点会变,写作是记录此刻思考的方式,而不是发布不可更改的终审结论。

    4. 04

      警惕写作变成纯抽象的自我安全区,多放具体场景和真实情绪,文字才有让人想回应的温度。

    HN 评论精选

    内向的核心是精力管理,而非社交能力差;写作社交应聚焦深度对话而非扩大曝光。

    这更像"社交笨拙但想和很多人说话",而不是严格意义上的内向。我有些内向特质:和人说话让我疲惫,对低质量对话没兴趣,不喜欢和陌生人闲聊;如果活动就是这样,我宁愿不去,也不想找个由头让人来找我聊。我并不算社交笨拙,只是在节省精力。所以我更愿意专注高质量互动——兴趣相投的小圈子,而不是让"广撒网式社交"变容易。这篇文章对作者成立,也适合那些确实想和别人闲扯的人。

    version_five查看英文原文

    This sounds more like "socially awkward but want to talk to lots of people" than strictly introverted (which itself generally gets used to mean many things). I have some "introvert" traits: talking to people tires me out, I have no interest in low quality conversations - I dont like chit-chatting with strangers. If this is what's going to happen at an event I'd rather avoid it altogether than have a pretext for people to come talk to me. But I'm not socially awkward really (imo) more just conserving my energy because I do find talking tiring. So all that to say I'd rather focus on high quality interaction - smaller groups with mutual interests, vs make bulk unsolicited networking easier for me. I can see the article makes sense for the author and would work for people who for some reason want to have idle banter with others.

    写作的真正瓶颈是分发和被读到,而替代性的社交媒体互动又容易上瘾。

    最大的挑战是让人真的去读你写的东西,并且在意的程度足以回应。我最近开始写博客,想记录写作练习、探索感兴趣的话题。当然有人读会满足虚荣心,也可能带来人们说的对话和机会。但它不适合投广告,也不适合细分定位、围绕某个主题养受众,因为重点就是"写满足我智识好奇心的东西"。可这种内容又没法发到 Reddit 或论坛,它们以很好的理由封禁"博客垃圾"。没有明显的方式推广它、让它出现在人面前。替代方案是去 HN、Reddit 参与讨论,这在获得好对话上非常有效(虽然不一定能建立私人联系),但社交媒体的最大问题是很快变得不健康、上瘾,而写博客不会。我想写、想和人交流,但不想沉迷于刷新页面看赞和评论通知(我确实有严重的网络成瘾问题)。

    lumenwrites查看英文原文

    The biggest challenge is getting people to read what you wrote, and care enough to respond. I started a blog recently where I want to write notes for my writing practice and explore different subjects I'm interested in. Of course it'd be nice if someone had actually read it, for my personal vanity, and all those conversations and opportunities people claim blogging leads to. But it's not the kind of project it would make sense to drive ads to, or even to niche down and grow an audience around a specific topic, since the whole point is to write whatever "gratifies my intellectual curiosity". But you can't really submit this kind of thing to reddit or to forums, they ban "blogspam" for very good reasons. There's no obvious way to promote it and put it in front of people. Instead of blogging I could try engaging in conversations here and on reddit (and maybe on discord or twitter), and that, at least HN and reddit, works amazingly well for having good discussions (if not for making personal connections). But the biggest problem with engaging in social media is that it quickly becomes extremely unhealthy and addictive (in the way that blogging doesn't). I want to write, and I want to talk to people, but I don't want to get addicted to refreshing my profile page to look for upvotes and comment notifications (I do have a big problem with the internet addiction). I'm not sure what the right solution to that would be. Does anyone have good ideas? How do you make actual human connection over the internet and engage in intelligent conversations, without getting your dopamine hijacked and skinnerboxed by the social media algorithms? Maybe there's a space for a platform that would encourage thoughtful discussion somehow, and limit the immediate rewards that make social media so addictive. But then nobody would use that platform, right?

    写作的抽象性既是优势也是逃避情绪与人际现实的避难所。

    确实如此,但不止于此。写作是一种沟通媒介:有些沟通目的它最合适,有些则很糟糕。写作极其抽象,与潜意识联系较弱,离现实世界很远,而人是由面对面的、人形的互动驱动的。安静的人喜欢写作,正是因为情绪起伏更平缓。但我发现很多人把写作和其他工具当作处理情绪的创可贴,而不是去探索情绪。他们不去寻求、享受、欢笑、哭泣、对生活的乐趣保持好奇,而是用层层抽象来控制情绪;不把自己扔进情绪的漩涡里成长,而是竖起安全围栏,永远搞不清自己是怎么运转的。他们乐意花几年优化语言编译器,却从没想过研究一下自己这个"编译器"为什么卡壳。

    urthor查看英文原文

    It is. It's also more than that. Writing is a communication medium. For some of the reasons we want to communicate, it's the perfect tool for the job. For some of the reasons we want to communicate it's a bit rubbish. Writing is extremely abstract. It has less of a connection to our subconscious, it's a long, long way from the real world. Humans are creatures driven by human shaped, in person interaction. Quieter cats love writing for exactly that reason, the emotional ups and downs are much more mellow. I find though, many people use writing and other tools as a band-aid for how they deal with their emotions. Instead of exploring them. Instead of seeking, enjoying, laughing, crying, being curious about at all the joys of life, they use multiple abstractions to control their emotions. Rather than throwing themselves into an emotional whirlwind and growing as a person, they throw up safety barriers. They never figure out how they, themselves actually work. They'll happily devote years of their lives towards optimizing language compilers, without even thinking to learn what makes the Mountain Dew compiler tick.

    观点迭代快的人写公开文章,要接受旧文字很快显得过时、甚至令自己不适。

    我的观点变太快了,不适合这么做。读到一年前自己写的东西,会有点痛苦和烦躁。

    jstx1查看英文原文

    I change my opinions way too frequently for it. Reading stuff that I wrote as recently as a year ago is mildly painful and annoying.

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