写作方法2022scraft.ai
Show HN：我做了一个像苏格拉底那样提问的写作工具
Show HN: I made a writing tool that asks questions like Socrates
导读
这是一个 AI 写作工具的产品发布帖：它宣称不用 AI 替你写句子，而是像苏格拉底一样向你提问，帮你想清楚要说什么。对写作者的价值在于评论区讨论的两个要点：AI 写作助手容易「只扩展不反驳」，以及真正的苏格拉底式提问和泛泛的启发式提问有什么区别。
可以直接用的写作要点
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与其让 AI 替你续写句子，不如让它追问你的论点，逼你把「我到底想说什么」讲清楚。
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警惕 AI 写作工具「只扩张、不反驳」的倾向：它会把模糊的句子写得更长，却不会指出论证混乱在哪里。
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向一个想象中的对话者解释自己的想法，往往比独自修改更容易发现自己论证的漏洞。
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真正的苏格拉底式提问是追问定义、前提和内在矛盾，而不是泛泛的「你觉得这段怎么样」式启发问题；自己审稿时也应如此。
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别把读者已经熟悉的术语改写成含糊的说法，那样会低估读者，也让表达变弱。
HN 评论精选
别把读者已知的概念改写成含糊说法；产品体验上也不要制造「以为能用、结果要注册」的落差。
想法很巧妙，产品可能不错，但网站给人的感觉很糟：一是「苏格拉底法」本该是个大家都懂的词，重新包装它反而像是在对读者降低水准；二是页面上看着能直接试用，让你输完主题后才要求登录，这比一开始就要求登录更像在骗人。
codingdave查看英文原文
Clever idea. I like the concept, and think it could be a great product. But your site gives me a bad vibe: 1) I feel like the term, "Socratic method" is fairly well understood. Am I wrong? Because trying to rephrase it feels like you are dumbing down your marketing for an audience that... well, isn't me. Which is fine if I'm an outlier. I just thought it was a common term. 2) Either let people try it, or make them create an account. Having a page that looks like it is going to let you try it, lets you enter a subject, and then prompts you to login feels worse than just forcing a login right away. (Which is also a problem, but at least doesn't feel like you are trying to trick us.)
演示里的问题虽有用，但严格来说不算苏格拉底式提问，概念要用准。
产品看起来不错，没什么可挑的。但不妨听听 codingdave 关于「苏格拉底式提问」的意见：演示视频里的那些问题对理清一篇文章确实有帮助，但它们并不是苏格拉底式提问。
henriquemaia查看英文原文
Your product seems nice. I have nothing to take away from it. However, consider what codingdave have told you about the Socratic questions. The ones in the video are no doubt helpful for someone trying to find their way on a text. But they are not Socratic questions. Good luck for your project.
AI 擅长把文字写长，不擅长反驳；找对手追问逻辑，比让 AI 续写更能提高质量。
我是 Hyperwrite 的付费用户，如果它真像我想的那么好，我会考虑换过来。GPT-3 赶邮件、提案、文档时很有用，但它倾向于「扩张」而不是「反应」，很容易让人陷进自我循环。好的编辑会逼你把含糊的句子说清楚、把混乱的论证理顺，而苏格拉底式对话的强项正在于拷问每一稿的逻辑实质，让你在反复修改中越来越清楚自己到底想说什么。我有时会去 GPT-3 沙盒里找「苏格拉底」聊，给自己找一个有力的对手，在正式提出论证前先拆一遍；向想象中的对话者解释想法不仅让写作更有趣，成品质量也比我直接让「一个平庸版的自己」替我补完句子要高。
neoncontrails查看英文原文
This is so cool. I'm a Hyperwrite subscriber and would absolutely consider switching to Scraft.ai if it works as well as I'm imagining. Although GPT-3 can be a powerful ally when writing emails, proposals, documents, etc., on tight deadlines, for me personally, I find it's dreadfully easy to get "stuck" in vicious feedback loops as a result of the language model's tendency to expand rather than react. A great editor will push you to clarify sentences that are vague, improve arguments that are muddled, and (where I'm thinking, Scraft.ai might really shine) is a master of dialectic, poking and prodding at the logical substance of each draft and helping you to realize more clearly at each step of this iterative process what, exactly, it is that you want to say. I look forward to giving this a shot! It's funny, I'll sometimes spark up a conversation with Socrates in the GPT-3 sandbox if I'm ever looking for a spirited adversary to pick apart an argument before I make it. Explaining one's thoughts to an imaginary interlocutor not only makes writing more fun -- joyful, even -- but in my experience, helps me produce a higher quality product vs. simply asking "mediocre Westworld fascimile of myself, fine-tuned on a corpus of mundane office emails I wrote" to finish my sentences for me.
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