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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    出版与作家生涯2015washingtonpost.com

    刘慈欣:中国最炙手可热的科幻作家

    Liu Cixin, China’s hottest science-fiction writer

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    导读

    这篇报道介绍刘慈欣为何值得读,并把他作为中国最受关注的科幻作家来讨论;评论区则围绕《三体》的观念密度、黑暗森林逻辑和科学设定可信度展开。对写作者来说,它提醒我们:宏大观念能驱动故事,但结尾和关键装置仍要守住可信度。

    关键词 科幻写作《三体》世界观设定叙事可信度

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      用一个能推到极致的核心逻辑(如黑暗森林法则)制造冲突和思想张力。

    2. 02

      开头和中段可以用密集观念与复杂情节抓人,但结尾若滑向俗套奇观,会削弱整体说服力。

    3. 03

      科幻的关键道具要经得起基本物理和材料常识的推敲,否则读者容易出戏。

    4. 04

      把人类行为与冷酷宇宙法则并置,用反差形成讽刺和主题表达。

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    观念密度和情节吸引力很重要,但结尾可信度会削弱作品;可对比更写实的科幻。

    以下有剧透。我最近读完《三体》系列第一本(第二本很快会有英译),很喜欢开头和中间部分,充满有趣的科学想法,情节错综复杂又吸引人。但到结尾变得不太现实,甚至有点俗套,例子是三体人派到地球、阻止我们科学进步的高维计算机。尽管如此,仍很值得读,充满让人思考的迷人观念。另一部很好的当代科幻是 Ramez Naam 的“Nexus Arc”系列,我其实比《三体》更喜欢,也更合理真实。

    ThePhysicist查看英文原文

    Warning, spoilers below. I recently finished the first book of the "The Tree Body Problem" series (the second one will be translated to English soon) and I really enjoyed the beginning and middle part of it, which are packed with interesting scientific ideas and an intricate and captivating plot. Towards the end the book tends to become a lot more unrealistic and even a bit "cheesy" though. An example would be the hyper-dimensional computers that the Trisolarians send to Earth to hinder our scientific progress. Still, it is a very good read and packed with fascinating ideas that will make you think. Another example of very good contemporary science fiction is Ramez Naam's "Nexus Arc" series of books, which I actually liked much better than the Three-Body Problem, and which are a bit more plausible and realistic as well.

    把一条冷酷逻辑推到极致,并用人类行为反差制造讽刺和张力。

    一个有趣的想法:宇宙中有许多文明,都想生存,而空间有限。顺着逻辑推下去,每个文明都必须把其他文明视为生存威胁,于是“发现即攻击”成了唯一安全策略。技术落后文明之所以安全,只是因为别人不知道它们存在。而人类却向太空发射信息,点起篝火站在旁边大喊:“我在这儿!我在这儿!”

    Gys查看英文原文

    One interesting thought: "... there are many civilizations in the universe, they all want to survive, and there is only so much space out there. Follow the logic through, and it’s clear that every civilization must regard every other civilization as an existential threat, leaving attack on sight as the only safe strategy. All that keeps technologically inferior civilizations safe is the ignorance of others about their existence." "And here is humanity firing messages into space, building bonfires and standing beside them screaming, “Here I am! Here I am!”

    关键科幻装置需经得起材料与物理常识推敲,否则会破坏可信度。

    剧透——没读过书别读。我今年早些时候读了,很喜欢。不过我一直琢磨碳纳米管丝和那艘船。单原子厚度的线当刀在科幻里出现过,比如《环形世界》里有人撞上横在路上的纳米丝被斩首。在《三体》里,我不认为碳纳米管能那样切开金属:你得克服船里所有铁原子的累积键能,我怀疑即使船发动机全功率也推不动。而且还得假设纳米管绳能承受全部张力。据说碳纳米管能承受约100000N拉力(地球重力下约10000kg),所以也许不会断——但我也怀疑船体金属不会被劈开。有懂化学、固体物理或材料科学的人能评论吗?

    CountSessine查看英文原文

    SPOILERS - don't read unless you've read the book: I read the book earlier this year and I loved it. One thing I had been thinking about though was the carbon nanotube wire and the ship. Single-atom-thick wires used as knives have shown up in science-fiction before. In Ringworld, for example, a character is decapitated when they run into a nano-wire strung across a path. In The Three Body Problem, I don't think you could ever 'cut' metal like that with carbon nanotubes - you'd have to overcome the cumulative bonding energies of all of those iron atoms in the ship and I doubt even the ship's engines running at full blast could push hard enough to do that. And that's assuming that a string of nanotubes has the strength to resist all of that tension. Apparently carbon nanotubes can resist about 100000N of tensile force (about a 10000kg weight in earth's gravity), so perhaps it wouldn't break - but I doubt that the metal in the ship would cleave, either. Is there anyone who knows more about chemistry/solid state physics/materials science to comment?

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