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论越南语写作
On Vietnamese Writing
导读
这篇短文讨论越南书写系统(尤其是国语字)的实用性与观感,并涉及它如何成为现代越南文。评论从历史考据和字体排版两个角度补充、质疑,适合写作者思考文字形式、事实核查与阅读体验之间的关系。
可以直接用的写作要点
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把“清楚实用”作为写作底线,优雅可以是加分项,但不必以牺牲易读易学为代价。
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判断文字观感时先检查字体和排版,不要错怪语言或内容本身。
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涉及历史事实和关键数字时要给出可靠来源,并核对时间、人口等细节。
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处理带变音符号或特殊字符的文本时,要给行距和版面留足空间,避免段落显得拥挤。
HN 评论精选
越南文重实用、易学,日常观感朴素多归因于字体和排版,而非语言本身。
我在越南住了五年,越南文读写相当不错。书面越南文可能不如中文优雅,但非常实用,我认为这让越南人在学习西方语言和与西方世界打交道时占很大优势。对任何西方人来说,学会读写越南文远比中文、高棉文或泰文容易——这是好事,因为掌握声调相当难。很多随意聊天中,人们甚至不写声调符号,因为手机输入麻烦,这让文字看起来更朴素。正如另一位评论者所说,日常书面越南文显得朴素,更多是因为实用字体和糟糕排版,而不是语言本身。
cageface查看英文原文
I've been living here in Vietnam for five years now and read & write Vietnamese pretty well. Written Vietnamese may not be as elegant as Chinese but it's very practical and I think it gives the Vietnamese a huge leg up in learning Western languages and dealing with the Western world. For any Westerner, learning to read & write the language is vastly easier than Chinese, Khmer, or Thai. Which is a good thing since mastering the tones is quite difficult. In a lot of casual conversation people don't even bother to write the accents and tones out because it's a bit of a hassle on a mobile phone, which makes it look even plainer. As another commenter said, the plainness of a lot of everyday written Vietnamese has more to do with utilitarian fonts and poor typography than the language itself.
历史主张需要可靠来源,文章在人口和时间等事实上存在错误。
遗憾的是,文章没有为其核心主张提供任何来源。西方文献中的参考都指向:到1920年代初,国语字已是迄今最普及的文字,很大程度上因殖民政府强力推行。到1945年已没有选择可做,事实上也没有做出选择。1945年越南人口远不到4500万,而是略低于2500万。这篇文章的作者似乎对越南历史只有粗浅掌握,很可能把1945年独立宣言与1975年统一混为一谈。
achamayou查看英文原文
It's unfortunate that the article does not provide any source for its central claim. All references in western literature point to quốc ngữ being by far the most widespread script by the beginning of the 1920s, largely owing to the colonial administration pushing for it aggressively. There was no choice to make by 1945, and indeed none was made. The population of Vietnam in 1945 wasn't anywhere near 45 million, instead it was a bit under 25 million. This article seems to have been written by someone who only has a strenuous grasp of Vietnam's history, and is very likely confusing the declaration of independence in 1945 with the reunification in 1975.
字体排印资源有助于理解现代越南书写系统的呈现方式。
一篇很动人的文章。我强烈推荐这本关于越南字体排印的电子书给想进一步了解现代书写系统的人:https://vietnamesetypography.com/
amake查看英文原文
A lovely article. I highly recommend this ebook on Vietnamese typography for anyone interested in learning more about the modern writing system: https://vietnamesetypography.com/
默认字体与行距不足造成越南文观感不佳,排版需为变音符号留空间。
它看起来不美观,是因为操作系统大多数默认字体并非为越南文书写设计。此外,较大的行高也很重要,否则段落会因声调符号占据垂直空间而显得拥挤。
ethana查看英文原文
It's aesthetically unpleasing because most of the default fonts on OSes weren't designed for vietnamese writing. Add on to that, a bigger line height is also important to not make paragraphs look all cramped up because of the accent marks taking up vertical space.
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