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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    语言与文风2019economist.com

    因纽特人商定了一套统一的书写系统

    The Inuit agree on a common writing system

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    导读

    这篇文章讲因纽特人为何要统一一套共同书写系统,以及音节文字与拉丁字母之间的取舍。评论从文化保护、技术支持和日常使用角度补充了争论,对写作者理解“形式选择如何影响表达与传播”很有启发。

    关键词 书写系统语言保护可读性标准化

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      写长词较多或结构特殊的语言内容时,可借鉴音节文字的思路:让形式贴合语言节奏,能显著改善可读性。

    2. 02

      发布前先测试读者端能否输入、显示和搜索你的文字,工具门槛常比美学更决定传播效果。

    3. 03

      统一术语和格式能降低读者负担,但会牺牲地方变体;先明确受众,再决定标准化程度。

    4. 04

      写少数群体题材时,把书写系统背后的殖民史和使用场景写进去,别只把它当奇观。

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    语言和写作的传播受平台与工具支持限制,小语种尤其容易被产品生态忽略。

    这个 HN 帖子和我当前工作交集之大实属罕见——我正望着伊卡卢伊特市中心窗外。有趣的是,新版 Windows 已允许用户方便地添加因纽特语音节文字和拉丁语言支持,但我还没见过实体键盘。最让我不满的是云服务和本地部署企业产品缺乏服务器端语言支持。如果微软能为翻译支持克林贡语,也许也能稍微更好地支持因纽特语。

    jjkaczor查看英文原文

    Wow... It's very rare that a HN post intersects so closely with my current work... I say, as I look out the window into downtown Iqaluit. Interestingly enough newer versions of Windows allows users to easily add support for both Inuktitut Syllabic and Latin languages, I have yet to see a physical keyboard. What irks me the most, is the lack of server-side language support for cloud offerings, on-premise Enterprise products, etc. If Microsoft can support Klingon for translation purposes, then just maybe they could support Inuktitut a little better.

    多套书写系统会增加小语种的使用负担,统一标准是文化保护的重要一步。

    我完全不知道因纽特语不止一种书写系统。对一个人口如此少的语言来说,这是令人意外又严重的痛点。因纽特人是加拿大少数文化相对完整的原住民群体之一——其他群体大多在数百年殖民统治和寄宿学校中失去了大量文化,而因纽特人相对被忽视,这有好有坏。很高兴看到保护语言的举措。

    Pxtl查看英文原文

    I had no idea that Inuktitut had more than one writing system. For a language with such a small population, that's a surprising and serious pain-point. The Inuit are one of the few indigenous groups in Canada that managed to keep their culture relatively intact - most other groups have lost much of it through centuries of colonial rule and ultimately with residential schools, while the Inuit were comparatively neglected - both in positive and negative terms. Good to hear steps being taken to protect the language.

    独特书写系统的存亡常取决于输入与使用便利性,而非字符容量。

    我不禁为因纽特语音节文字的官方终结感到难过:它是如此独特的书写系统,似乎也很适合因纽特语言。Unicode 能处理无数字符,我至少五年没在设备上遇到缺字体的问题。如果问题是缺少输入支持导致人们在手机上改用英语,努纳武特政府不能开发带好用音节输入法的 iOS/Android 键盘吗?

    mFixman查看英文原文

    I can't help but being sad for the official end of the Inuktitut syllabic: it was such a unique system or writing, and it seemed to fit Inuit languages well. Unicode can handle a zillion characters, and I don't remember having problems with missing fonts in any of my devices for at least half a decade. If the problem is people talking in English on their cellphones because of lack of input support, couldn't the government of Nunavut work in making iOS/Android keyboards with a good syllabic input method?

    书写系统的选择是在表达效率与现实可访问性之间权衡,独特性并不足以保证其存续。

    我还以为他们几年前就定好标准了。无论如何,音节文字非常有趣。使用音节文字有一些明显优势:使用它的语言多为多式综合语,词很大、信息密集,且多采用辅音-元音音节结构,很适合音节表(一个字符代表辅音加元音)或元音附标文字(辅音是字符主体,元音标记次要)。字母文字会造成又长又难管的词。Qaliujaaqpait 和 Ojibwe 还用双写元音表示长元音,使罗马化文本很长。比如 Ojibwe 的“咖啡”是“makade-mashkiikiiwaaboo”,用音节文字写是紧凑得多的“ᒪᑲᑌᒪᔥᑮᑮᐙᐴ”。音节文字本身也很妙:不同辅音有不同形状,旋转决定元音,很好学。但缺点也不少:罗马字母无处不在、软件支持好,新一代总要学英语和法语;旋转字符对阅读障碍者也不友好。

    __rvnykk查看英文原文

    Interesting, I thought they had already agreed on a standard a few years ago In any case, Syllabics are a very interesting writing system. I'm planning on doing an in-depth video about them at some point, but Tom Scott's introduction is great [1]. There are some major advantages to using Syllabics. Consider that the languages that use them are polysynthetic, meaning that the 'words' are quite large and encompass a lot of information, and that they mostly use a Consonant-Vowel syllable structure that is perfect for a syllabary, where one character represents both a consonant and its vowel [2], or an abugida, where the consonant is the important part of the character, and the vowel markings are secondary [3]. An alphabet creates large, unruly words. Qaliujaaqpait and Ojibwe also double their vowels to lengthen them, making romanized text very long. Look at this Ojibwe word for coffee: "makade-mashkiikiiwaaboo", in syllabics, it's the much less unruly "ᒪᑲᑌᒪᔥᑮᑮᐙᐴ". And Syllabics themselves are amazing, there are different shapes for the consonants, and their rotation determines the vowel sound [4]. Just awesome, and very easy to learn However, sadly, there are many disadvantages to the awesome system. For one, roman letters are everywhere, there's good software support, there's always going to be a need to know them as the new generation learns English and French. Not to mention rotation-based characters are no good for, say, someone with dyslexia. I'm not shocked at this decision, it was the right call. First Nations and Inuit languages need standardization, and more importantly, as much literature as possible, to compete. That's hard to do when everyone is writing in a different way. I'm writing syllabic converter software that should hopefully be more accurate than the current ones online today, if you're interested in helping or learning about it, feel free to send me an email 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW4hI_METac 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllabary 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abugida 4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojibwe_writing_systems#Ojibwe_syllabics

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