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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作方法2020paulgraham.com编辑精选

    写作,简短地说(2005)

    Writing, Briefly (2005)

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    这是 Paul Graham 2005 年的一篇短文,把他关于写作的建议压缩成一份速查清单:先快速写出一版糟糕的初稿,再反复改写、删减,用口语化语气,靠模仿和朗读培养语感。评论区补充了这条核心信念:好文章来自好修改。对任何要写邮件、文章或文案的人都实用。

    关键词 写作建议修改初稿Paul Graham

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      先一口气写完糟糕的第一版,别在开头就追求完美;改总比从零写容易。

    2. 02

      写完放几天再回头删改,凡是不必要的内容都砍掉,不要怕删。

    3. 03

      大声朗读自己的稿子,哪里读着别扭、哪里读得让人犯困,问题就藏在那里。

    4. 04

      写作前把想法告诉朋友,再把说出口的话记下来;80% 的想法是在动笔之后才出现的。

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    先写出初稿,哪怕很差,才有东西可改。

    一位哲学教授曾告诉我:“记住,你没法修改‘什么都没有’,但你可以修改‘一堆烂东西’。”这条建议不只适用于写作。

    lemonberry查看英文原文

    One of my philosophy professors told me once, "Remember: you can't edit nothing, but you can edit shit". Advice that's valuable beyond writing.

    好文章靠重写;有读者时打磨才划算。

    非常赞同需要反复重写。罗伯特·格雷夫斯有句话:“没有所谓的好文笔,只有好的重写。”可惜日常写的大多是邮件这类一次性内容,不值得精雕细琢;但一旦有超过一个读者,尤其是营销文案和网页文案,花时间打磨信息就非常值得。

    ivan_ah查看英文原文

    +1 about the need for rewriting. There's a really good quote about that: “There is no such thing as good writing, only good rewriting.” — Robert Graves Unfortunately most of the writing we tend to do in the day-to-day is throwaway one-off stuff like emails, which are not worth polishing that much. As soon as you have a 1+ audience though, and especially for marketing and webcopy, investing the time to cleanup the message becomes super worth it.

    Paul Graham 写作建议的完整清单,可当自查表。

    把要点列成清单:尽快写出糟糕的第一版;一遍遍重写;删掉一切不必要的东西;用口语化的语气写;培养对烂文字的嗅觉,好在自己稿子里发现并修掉;模仿你喜欢的作者;写不动时先讲给别人听,再把你说的写下来;预料文章中 80% 的想法在动笔后才出现,而开头的想法有 50% 是错的;要有砍掉内容的自信;找信任的朋友读,指出哪里让人困惑或拖沓;别总是做详细大纲;动笔前把想法搁几天;随身带小本子;想到第一句话就开始写;如果截止日期逼你提前动笔,就先写出最重要的那句话;写你喜欢的东西;别试图显得厉害;随时可以中途换题目;用脚注收纳岔题;用首语重复把句子串起来;大声读稿,找出拗口处和让你不想读的段落;努力告诉读者新鲜有用的东西;用大块时间写作;重新开始时先重读已写部分;收尾时给自己留个容易接手的开头;为计划写的题目积累笔记。

    jasonshen查看英文原文

    The tips in bullet form: - Write a bad version 1 as fast as you can - rewrite it over and over - cut out everything unnecessary - write in a conversational tone - develop a nose for bad writing, so you can see and fix it in yours - imitate writers you like - if you can't get started, tell someone what you plan to write about, then write down what you said - expect 80% of the ideas in an essay to happen after you start writing it, and 50% of those you start with to be wrong - be confident enough to cut - have friends you trust read your stuff and tell you which bits are confusing or drag - don't (always) make detailed outlines - mull ideas over for a few days before writing - carry a small notebook or scrap paper with you - start writing when you think of the first sentence - if a deadline forces you to start before that, just say the most important sentence first - write about stuff you like - don't try to sound impressive - don't hesitate to change the topic on the fly - use footnotes to contain digressions - use anaphora to knit sentences together - read your essays out loud to see (a) where you stumble over awkward phrases and (b) which bits are boring (the paragraphs you dread reading) - try to tell the reader something new and useful - work in fairly big quanta of time - when you restart, begin by rereading what you have so far - when you finish, leave yourself something easy to start with - accumulate notes for topics you plan to cover at the bottom of the file - don't feel obliged to cover any of them - write for a reader who won't read the essay as carefully as you do, just as pop songs are designed to sound ok on crappy car radios - if you say anything mistaken, fix it immediately - ask friends which sentence you'll regret most - go back and tone down harsh remarks - publish stuff online, because an audience makes you write more, and thus generate more ideas - print out drafts instead of just looking at them on the screen - use simple, germanic words - learn to distinguish surprises from digressions - learn to recognize the approach of an ending, and when one appears, grab it.

    推荐一本关于写作技艺的经典书。

    斯蒂芬·金的《写作这回事》(On Writing) 对我帮助很大。

    chrisseldo查看英文原文

    A great book that helped me was "On Writing" by Stephen King. https://www.amazon.com/Writing-10th-Anniversary-Memoir-Craft/dp/1439156816

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