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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

    2. 02

      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作方法2021blog.pragmaticengineer.com编辑精选

    我是如何激励自己坚持写作的

    How I motivate myself to write

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    导读

    这篇文章围绕“如何给自己写作的动力”分享作者保持写作的习惯与方法,适合想持续产出但容易拖延的写作者参考。评论进一步补充了定期写作、模仿练习和工具使用的经验,也提醒我们:技巧之外,动机与兴趣本身仍是更难的问题。

    关键词 写作动机写作习惯模仿练习技术写作

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      给自己设一个可持续的写作频率,比如每月一篇,并维护一个不断增长的选题清单。

    2. 02

      用“富兰克林练习”训练风格:读一篇喜欢的文章,隔几天凭记忆重写,再与原文对比。

    3. 03

      写技术或项目总结时,逼自己解释清楚“为什么”和“怎么做”,这会反过来加深理解。

    4. 04

      把语法和编辑工具当辅助而非拐杖,保留自己检查和修改的能力。

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    文章更像写作技巧而非动机指南,且“缺乏兴趣”可能是比方法更难解决的问题。

    我喜欢这篇文章作为写作技巧合集,但没怎么看到“动机”本身。作者似乎天生有写作内驱力,建议也默认读者已有写作意愿并想进步。缺乏兴趣是否可解决?有人说不,你无法让一个本质上不是写作者的人变成写作者;我也怀疑动机受生物和意志共同影响。

    nonbirithm查看英文原文

    I liked this article as a collection of tips for effective writing, but did not find much about the topic of motivation within it. The author appears to be internally driven to write from the outset, and the advice given assumes that you also have the volition to write yourself and want to improve. Is lack of interest a solvable problem? This is a question I continually revisit. In one of the comment threads for the last "how to write" article that was submitted recently, there was an opinion that it is not. There is nothing you can do to motivate someone who is fundamentally a non-writer to be a writer. The interest will never be there, no matter what the person chooses to say or think on the contrary. Does the concept of interest have some kind of divide between "mental" (the subjects your brain is capable of focusing on at a biological level) and "volitional" (the things you say you want to focus on)? Certain mental conditions include symptoms like "specific interests" as diagnostic criteria, which makes me believe that biology plays a part in motivation in addition to routine. Ideas such as those have made me question many other things. Assuming that lack of motivation is not solvable, is it justifiable to have interest in nothing (productive/creative/cultural) in particular, yet still be dissatisfied with the ways you spend your time? There is some kind of cognitive dissonance that arises when I think that "writing would be nice," when attempting to write is an activity that I lose interest in within days of actively returning to it, but the original thought of "writing would be nice" never goes away.

    定期写作、维护选题清单和解释性写作能提升能力与理解,但不必把找工作当作主要回报。

    我的经验类似但规模小。几年前我决定每月写一篇 tech/software 主题的文章,虽错过几次,平均仍约 1.4 篇/月。我写自己感兴趣、以前觉得神秘的主题,并维护项目/主题清单。推荐《On Writing Well》练简洁精确。持续写作最大好处是提升写作和探索有趣主题;写博客解释代码会逼你真正弄懂 how/why,而写代码有时可以侥幸正确。有人说 tech blogging 利于找工作,但我经验里博客帮助不大,只是一个数据点,别因此气馁。

    eatonphil查看英文原文

    My experience and techniques have been remarkably similar, albeit on a smaller scale than Gergely. A few years ago I decided to start writing one post per month on any subject within tech/software development. I've missed that goal a couple of times but my average since then has still been ~1.4 posts per month. I write about whatever is interesting to me and most often that's exploring topics in tech that were a mystery to me before like compilers, databases, etc. Like Gergely I keep an ever growing list of projects or topics that seem interesting to tackle at some point. One book I'd recommend most to folks writing in tech (whether it's technical or not) is On Writing Well, which teaches you the same kinds of things Gergely uses Hemingway Editor for. That is, to be concise and precise. I think the biggest benefit to writing consistently is that you improve as a writer and that you get to explore interesting topics. Even if you are doing coding projects to improve as a developer, it's a whole new level to start trying to explain that work in blog posts. It's easier in coding to get things right without understanding exactly how/why they worked. When you write to explain you have to actually dig into that how/why. Some people say tech blogging is great for getting jobs but in my experience, of all the things that helped me get work, my blog didn't contribute much. But I'm just one data point. I say this so that you don't get discouraged if you don't suddenly unlock emails from hiring managers because you start writing more.

    凭记忆重写喜欢的文章并与原文对比,是训练风格与结构的有效方法。

    关于第 4 点“模仿喜欢的写作风格”:富兰克林在自传里描述过练习:读一篇喜欢的文章,等几天让细节淡忘但记得主要论点,然后不看原文重写,最后与原文对比。我很喜欢这个方法,他的自传也值得一读。

    maroonblazer查看英文原文

    Regarding item 4 "Copy Writing Styles You Like": Ben Franklin, in his autobiography, describes an exercise he subjected himself to which consisted of, roughly: 1. Read an article or piece of writing you like. 2. Wait a few days for the specifics of the article to fade from your memory, but not so long that you forget the main arguments. 3. Rewrite the article without looking at the original 4. Compare what you wrote to the original. I absolutely love this approach. His entire autobiography is wonderful, and a quick read.

    语法工具可作辅助,但过度依赖会削弱自己的校对能力。

    Grammarly 已经成了拐杖。它要么漏掉拼写错误,要么在我写作时分散注意力;而且我觉得自己抓语法错误的能力正逐渐变差。

    anyfactor查看英文原文

    > I also use Grammarly to catch spelling, and grammar issues, and sometimes take suggestions the tool gives - though I just as frequently reject them. Grammarly has become a crutch. It either fails to catch typos or distracts me when I am writing. Moreover, I feel like I am progressively becoming bad at catching grammar mistakes.

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