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工程师们二十年里聊过的写作。

工程师、作家、编辑和创业者在 Hacker News 上聊了二十年“怎么写”:怎么写得清楚、怎么讲好一个故事、技术文档怎么写、小说和出版是怎么回事。这里把其中关于写作与讲故事的帖子挑出来,配上中文导读、可以直接用的写作要点和评论翻译。

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    1. 01

      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

    2. 02

      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

    3. 03

      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    写作方法2012skimling.com

    Show HN:Skimling——帮助孩子提升写作的平台

    Show HN: Skimling - A Platform to Help Kids Improve Their Writing

    阅读原文 HN 讨论
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    导读

    这是一个帮助孩子提高写作的平台 Show HN,创始人自称 16 岁;讨论区更多在质疑商业模式、收费、退款风险和质量控制。对写作者和写作教学者来说,值得读的是评论里关于“命名不能传递错误信号”和“写作反馈必须可验证”的提醒。

    关键词 写作反馈产品命名质量控制作文批改

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      给写作产品/文章命名时,措辞要服务内容本身,避免“skim/略读”这类暗示肤浅阅读的词。

    2. 02

      做写作反馈要先明确读者和定位:是帮学生真正写好作文,还是代写/提分,定位不清会削弱价值。

    3. 03

      写作辅导的质量控制不能只靠邮件争议流程,应有老师评分、资质展示和可追责的反馈机制。

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    写作辅导服务要先回答“老师已经愿意帮,学生为什么付费”,并明确自己是提分工具还是代写渠道,否则市场与竞争都成问题。

    我给您发了邮件。既然可能还有别人考虑做类似服务,我也曾考虑过,就把要点贴出来:1)多数老师愿意帮学生,学生为什么还要付费?2)一个明显答案是聚焦“老师不愿帮”的学生,但据我经验这是小市场。3)会感兴趣的人往往是很想写好作文的人;两个集合的并集更小,仅靠这个子集盈利不确定。4)如何与 EssayJudge 竞争?他们免费且质量已很难超越。5)如何审核“老师”的质量?学生不满意会退款吗?客户不道德怎么办?我发现不道德的人和学生的并集相当大。HN 有人提到拒付,那会是大问题。6)目标市场是谁:想买代写的人,还是只想拿好成绩的人?

    dvdhsu查看英文原文

    I just sent an e-mail to you. There might be other people contemplating starting a service like this, so as somebody who also considered it, I'll post the important parts here: 1. Most teachers are willing to help out students. Why would a student pay for your service? 2. An obvious answer to the above is "we'll focus on the students that have teachers that are unwilling to help". From my experience, that's a small market. 3. You also have to consider that the ones who would be interested in this service are ones who really want to have a good essay (I'll come back to this later); the union of the two sets is even smaller. I'm not entirely sure you would be able to churn profits from just this subset. 4. Moving beyond teachers, how will you compete with EssayJudge? They offer an amazing service for nothing. The quality of their service is hard to beat already, and their price impossible to overcome. 5. How will you vet the quality of your "teachers"? If a student isn't happy with the response, will you refund the money? What if your customers are immoral? (I've found that the union of immoral people and students is quite large.) Looking on HN, I see somebody mentioning "chargebacks"; that would indeed be a big problem. 6. What is your target market? Are you aiming for people who want to buy ghostwriters, or are you aiming for people who simply want to get a good grade (from "Doing well on essays is part of doing well in school, and doing well in school leads to a better life!", that seems to be your target audience), or are you aiming for people who really want to improve their writing? It seems that you're focusing on the penultimate, but is that really a good decision? Why wouldn't they just hire a ghostwriter instead? 7. An easy answer is "they're pretty good writers already, they just need that little bit of editing". If so, it looks like you're focusing on the last group. That's where the money lies, but your advertising doesn't seem to be targeted towards them. This is by no means a complete list of the problems you'll face. You should probably have answers to many of these before starting/going forwards though.

    名字暗示“略读/浅读”会传递错误信号;写作服务必须用评分、资质等机制做质量控制。

    这个想法不错。但我建议换个更好的名字。Skimling 来自 skim,而 skim over 的意思是“走马观花地读”。这对潜在学生不是好信息。你得更认真考虑质量控制。简单的邮件争议流程只是开始,还需要老师评分、老师资质等。

    HardyLeung查看英文原文

    This is a nice idea. However, I would suggest a better name. Skimling is derived from the word "skim", and "skim over" means to READ SUPERFICIALLY. This is not a good message to prospective students. You need to think harder about quality control. A simple email-based dispute process is a start, but you need more. How about teacher rating? Teacher credentials, etc.

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