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工程师、作家、编辑和创业者在 Hacker News 上聊了二十年“怎么写”:怎么写得清楚、怎么讲好一个故事、技术文档怎么写、小说和出版是怎么回事。这里把其中关于写作与讲故事的帖子挑出来,配上中文导读、可以直接用的写作要点和评论翻译。

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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    出版与作家生涯2013news.ycombinator.com编辑精选

    Ask HN:有人自费出版过书吗?有什么建议?

    Ask HN: Has anyone here self-published a book? Any advice?

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    这是一位即将完稿的作者在 Hacker News 上请教自出版经验,回帖者给出了从建读者群、邮件列表到推广策略的具体做法。对写作者来说,它把"写完之后怎么办"这件事讲得很实在:书的成败往往在动笔时就已经决定了一半。

    关键词 自出版读者积累邮件列表内容营销

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      别闭门写作:写作过程中就把章节要点、想法每周发给潜在读者,能预售更好,让读者和你一起长出来。

    2. 02

      推广单篇博文而不是书本身,文末用一句行动号召把读者引到邮件列表,再通过列表慢慢卖书。

    3. 03

      长期高频更新博客(有人坚持每天一篇五年以上),公开自己的创作与思考过程,读者会跟着你一起"想通"。

    4. 04

      该花钱的地方别省:请编辑、请插画师,成品质量是自出版者最容易被低估的一环。

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    先建读者群再卖书:用博文引流、邮件列表承接,而不是直接推销书本身。

    我自出版过两本书(《Double Your Freelancing Rate》和《Sell Yourself Online》),合计带来十万多美元收入。经验:一,别闭门写作——先积累想买的读者,能预售更好,每周给他们发章节要点之类的干货;二,"这是本喜剧书"意味着你在卖给普通消费者,而面向消费者时很难讲清"为什么值得付费";三,别推广书,推广那些呼应书中主题的博文,结尾加一句行动号召引导订阅邮件列表;四,我通常会建议做多种套餐,但对大众消费品不一定适用。

    bdunn查看英文原文

    I've self published two books now ("Double Your Freelancing Rate" and "Sell Yourself Online: The Blueprint") Together they've netted me a little over $100k in revenue. 1) Don't write in a vacuum. Build an audience of people who want to buy (double points if you presell to them), and deliver value to them once a week in the form of takeaways from chapters you've just written, thoughts you have on the subject, etc. 2) "It's a comedy book" means you're likely selling to consumers, and it's pretty hard to explain the value (e.g. why someone should pay you for your book) when you're selling to a consumer. 3) Don't promote the book, promote blog posts that reinforce what you're writing that end with a call-to-action to join a mailing list. 4) I'd usually say setup multiple packages, but again, I'm not sure if that'd work for a consumer product.

    长期日更博客、公开创作过程,并花钱请编辑和插画师,是自出版者可行的路径。

    朋友 Duncan McGeary 的经历:80年代出过三本书,后来忙生意停笔;等店铺稳定、还清债务后,他每周只上两天班,把其余时间用来写书,既出电子书也尝试过传统出版。可学之处:他坚持每天写一篇博文,已持续五年多;大量分享自己的写作与生意策略;还请了插画师和编辑。提醒一句:他的博客很多是"边写边想"的日志,读起来会觉得重复,但你能看着他慢慢想通,跟着获得那种"啊哈"时刻。

    jfolkins查看英文原文

    My friend Duncan McGeary is writing again. His timeline is. - Hermit, single guy, writes and gets three books published in the 80s - He Marries - Purchases a pop culture / comic book / store of awesomeness - Can't keep writing and keep up his business and his family, so he quits writing - The business expands (Sports Card Bubble, Pog Bubble, some other bubbles) opening 3 other locations - The business contracts (bubbles pop) - Focues on making one location super solid - Gets his business dialed in - Finally pays off all his debt, store is doing really well - Works two days a week at the store, hires solid employees - Devotes other remaing days to writing books - Has been publishing ebooks - Has tried to go the traditional publishing route Take aways - The dude has been around the block - He writes at least one blog post a day (he has been doing this for 5+ years) - He shares A LOT about what he is doing (store front business, book writing strategy, business strategy) - He has hired artists - He has hired an editor The one warning I'll give, is a lot of the time his blog is him processing. You really are reading the guy's journal. So it may feel he repeats himself. I personally enjoy existing in the guy's head. It is a different type of blog. One where you eventually see him work stuff out and you almost get that "AHAH!" moment with him. I really respect Duncan. I'd tell anyone interested in either business or writing to follow the guy. http://pegasus-dunc.blogspot.com/ https://twitter.com/PegasusBooks http://amzn.to/149vsQG

    读一本讲自出版营销的书后立刻动手建邮件列表,先把推广渠道准备好再谈卖书。

    (顺便打个广告)我今天刚公布了自己自出版电子书的发布日期。读了 Nathan Barry 的《Authority》之后,我立刻开始建邮件列表,已经攒了几百个邮箱可以用于推广。我没有具体建议可给(bdunn 的建议听起来很不错)。

    zrail查看英文原文

    <shameless plug> I actually just announced the launch date for my self-published ebook this morning: http://www.petekeen.net/announcing-mastering-modern-payments-using-stripe-with-rails </plug> I've been working on it for a few months after reading Nathan Barry's excellent book Authority. Based on that I started a mailing list right away and have collected a few hundred email addresses that I can market to. I can't say I have any concrete advice (bdunn's advice sounds great, though). Best of luck to you!

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