博客与个人写作2013penflip.com
Show HN:给写作者的 GitHub?
Show HN: A Github for writers?
导读
这是 Penflip 的作者在 HN 上展示产品:一个把 Git 式版本控制带给写作者的协作写作平台。评论区最有价值的讨论在于质疑“Github for writers”这个定位——真正的编剧、小说家和诗人未必需要逐字提交与批注,工具其实更适合技术型协作文档。写作者可借此反思:写作工具的形式,会如何反过来塑造自己的写作习惯。
可以直接用的写作要点
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先想清楚你的文字是写给谁看的:给技术同事写协作文档和给读者写小说,是两种完全不同的写作,文体与工具都要先定人。
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长文写作不必为每个标点都留一个版本,只在结构、观点或整段改写处留下节点,区分有意义的修改与无意义的微调。
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初稿需要不被打扰的私密空间:作家习惯在反复重写中成形,不必让编辑或读者看到每一次改动。
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写作形式会影响写作状态:Markdown 适合结构化技术文档,叙事类写作更需要所见即所得的即时手感。
HN 评论精选
“Github for writers”名不副实:作家按修订稿写作、需要所见即所得,逐字提交反而制造噪音,工具真正的受众是技术型协作者。
听到“写作者”,我想到的是编剧、小说家或诗人。“Github for writers”这个说法有误导性,因为真正会用这个工具的人恐怕不是作家,而是需要协作写东西的技术人员——这对写博客或论文的人来说很不错。几点问题:1)作家是按修订稿写作的,不喜欢自己改的每个字都被编辑或制作方点评;2)作家不喜欢 Markdown,他们要所见即所得,单是这一点就让人觉得这工具是为技术人员做的;3)写长篇时,大量无意义的改动会混在一起,写小说时能在不同版本间切换是好事,但每个标点都来一次提交就太过头了。
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When I hear "writer", I think of a screenwriter, novelist, or poet of some sort. "Github for writers" is misleading, since I think the people who would use this wouldn't be writers, but rather technical people who collaboratively write things. This is cool, given its audience is people who write blogs or possibly research papers. I think you showed this (or the premise of this idea) on HN a month ago or so. It still has the same problems as it does then... IF your core audience is still writers as defined above. 1) Writers write in revisions, and don't like to have every word they change critiqued by their editors/producers/etc. 2) Writers don't like markdown -- they want WYSIWYG. This feature alone makes me feel like your goal was to make this tool for technical people. 3) I think a lot of meaningless changes would get jumbled up in the mix if you're writing something long. If you're writing a novel, it would be nice to go between different versions of the novel, but perhaps a bit too much if you had a commit for every punctuation mark. This being said, I'm sort of interested what you think your audience should be. I think it could be a good tool given the right circumstances.
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