语言与文风2018smithsonianmag.com
诗歌与数学如何交汇
How Poetry and Math Intersect
导读
这篇 Smithsonian 文章讨论诗歌与数学的交集，提示写作者可以从秩序、模式和节奏的角度理解诗。它值得读，是因为它把“精确”与“激情”放在一起谈，能帮写作者平衡结构与表达。
可以直接用的写作要点
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把热情与分寸、激情与准确结合：好文字既要有火，也要有节制。
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用朗读或表演检验语言：语调、停顿和身体节奏会暴露纸面上看不到的缺失。
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别把话写满，留出读者补全的空间，诗意常生于页面的空白。
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建立自己的意象与节奏工具箱（如神话、外语词、音乐小节），再用它生成新表达。
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写作的理想状态是激情与分寸、热情与准确并存，并信任读者能承受真话。
这让我想起威廉·詹姆斯评论数学家兼哲学家威廉·金登·克利福德文集时的一句话：数学家与诗人的结合、热情与分寸的结合、激情与正确的结合，这才是理想。若现代要寻找能像过去宗教创始者影响父辈那样影响我们宇宙感受的先知，他必须像克利福德一样，不只是科学的感伤崇拜者，而是精通科学之道的人；他还必须有克利福德那种对普通人性的价值、对被告知全部真理的充分信任——歌德缺少这一点，使他成为少数人的灵感，却是多数人眼中冷淡的谜。
qntty查看英文原文
This reminds me of this quote by William James in a review of a book of essays by the mathematician and philosopher William Kingdon Clifford: But even the distant reader must allow that Clifford's mental personality belonged to the highest possible type to say no more. The union of the mathematician with the poet, fervor with measure, passion with correctness, this surely is the ideal. And if in these modern days we are to look for any prophet or saviour who shall influence our feelings towards the universe as the founders and renewers of past religions have influenced the minds of our fathers, that prophet, if he ever come, must, like Clifford, be no mere sentimental worshipper of science, but an expert in her ways. And he must have what Clifford had in so extraordinary a degree—that lavishly generous confidence in the worthiness of average human nature to be told all truth, the lack of which in Goethe made him an inspiration to the few but a cold riddle to the many.
朗读和表演能显出纸面之外缺失的元素；写作者也可先建立自己的节奏与意象工具集，再生成新想法。
我经常写作，并把它称为诗；每周有三四个晚上在外面写。也参加朗诵比赛和开放麦。有些诗我不太感冒，就像不喜欢乡村音乐，不是我的调。直到看一个人在 slam 上表演才真正入坑：语调、身体姿态近乎说唱，有灼人的火。我不读别人的诗，但乐意听；诗最好让人看到作者留在纸面之外缺失的那一部分。我觉得自己的写作很冷，作为 aspie 情绪疏远，所以写得冷而逻辑；我不太靠数学，而大量借希腊、北欧、罗马和以诺神话，有时转拉丁。听人表演，常听到相似的节奏小节和措辞，这合理：他们先打造工具集，再用它造新想法。
soulnothing查看英文原文
I write regularly, and I call it poetry. I write 3 to 4 nights a week while I'm out. I've also participated in slams and open mics. There is some poetry I'm just like meh on. It's like I don't like country it's just not my tune. I didnt really get into it till I saw a guy perform at a slam. The inflection of his voice, body posture, it was close to rapping in a way. There was just a palpable fire. But I won't read others poetry, ill gladly listen. Poetry is best seeing the missing element the author left off the page. I feel my writing is very cold. Being an aspie my emotions are very distant. So my writing comes off cold and logical. Instead of math i rely heavily on mythology Greek, Nordic, Roman, and enochian. Then will also drop to Latin at times. Listening to people perform. It's often in a similar bar, and phrasing. Which makes sense they've crafted a tool set. Then are crafting new ideas with it.
数学与诗歌的交集还可延伸到音乐理论和节奏研究，相关资源值得写作者参考。
很遗憾没提到这份出色的论文/书稿提案：Rachel Wells Hall 的《The Sound of Numbers: A Tour of Mathematical Music Theory / Math for Poets and Drummers》（2008），还有幻灯片和相关资料。
no_identd查看英文原文
Disappointed to see no reference to this brilliant paper/book proposal: http://people.sju.edu/~rhall/proposal.pdf Rachel Wells Hall - The Sound of Numbers: A Tour of Mathematical Music Theory/Math for Poets and Drummers [2008] Slides: http://people.sju.edu/~rhall/Rhythms/Poets/arcadia.pdf More: http://people.sju.edu/~rhall/Rhythms/ Even more: http://people.sju.edu/~rhall/
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