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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

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    库尔特·冯内古特:小说的艺术(第64号,1977)

    Kurt Vonnegut, the Art of Fiction No. 64 (1977)

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    这是《巴黎评论》1977年对库尔特·冯内古特的经典“小说的艺术”访谈,他谈及写作生涯、出版业现状与创作观。对写作者而言,这是难得的一手资料:一位大师坦诚讲述如何靠写作谋生、如何看待故事与读者。

    关键词 冯内古特作家访谈写作谋生小说创作

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      冯内古特提醒年轻写作者:出版社不再投资处女作、杂志衰落、电视台不再向自由撰稿人约稿,年轻人可能不得不以“无耻的枪手”身份写作谋生——先解决生存,再谈理想。

    2. 02

      冯内古特的魅力在于“对宇宙不灭的希望”与“历经世事后的冷峻犬儒”之间的张力——写作中可以同时容纳绝望与幽默。

    3. 03

      像读者一样珍惜作品:有读者刻意放慢阅读速度,以免“再没有冯内古特可读”——好作品值得被这样对待,也提醒作者写出经得起反复品读的东西。

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    读者对冯内古特的爱之深,甚至舍不得读完他的全部作品

    我一直深爱冯内古特的书。他去世时我哭了。从那以后,有几本我一直刻意留着不读,就是不想走到“再没有冯内古特可读”的那一天。我很想去看看他的墓,想知道他是否真用上了他在《五号屠场》里提议的墓志铭:“一切都很美好,没有什么痛苦。”

    lotsofmangos查看英文原文

    I have a long standing love of Vonnegut books. I cried when he died. There are some I am putting off reading since then, just so I don't reach a point where I have no more Vonnegut to read. I would love to see his grave just to find out if he did get the epitaph he suggested in Slaughterhouse 5: "Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt."

    冯内古特对年轻写作者生存处境的清醒判断

    引用访谈原文:“既然出版社不再为处女作投钱,杂志也死了,电视台不再向年轻自由撰稿人约稿,基金会只资助我这种老古董,年轻写作者将不得不靠做无耻的枪手来养活自己。”

    julespitt查看英文原文

    "Since publishers aren’t putting money into first novels anymore, and since the magazines have died, and since television isn’t buying from young freelancers anymore, and since the foundations give grants only to old poops like me, young writers are going to have to support themselves as shameless hacks."

    冯内古特的魅力源于希望与犬儒的张力,战争经历塑造了这种声音

    冯内古特身上有种魔力。有人总结得很好:“这是他对宇宙不灭的希望与他在世间历练出的残酷犬儒之间的冲突。”战争或许塑造了这种世界观——我深爱的祖父是二战老兵,他总念叨一句阴森的话:“他们教我们杀人,却从没教我们怎么关掉它。”我在冯内古特和后来的约瑟夫·海勒的作品里,都能找到祖父那种刻薄的犬儒、绝望与不灭的幽默。冯内古特去世时我在中东留学,大学图书馆摆出一桌他的书,我还很高兴,朋友却告诉我他昨晚去世了,我在图书馆里失声尖叫。为了致敬,我会看《回到学校》的重播,只为看他的客串。

    616c查看英文原文

    Like others here, there is something magical about Vonnegut. I think jmduke summarized it very welll. > it's the conflict between his relentless hope for the universe and the brutal cynicism he developed during his time spent in it. As for the war being a formidable cause for this worldview, I guess so. I was very close to my grandfather, a grizzly WWII veteran, for largely how it impacted him this way (I still walk around repeating the eerie phrase he would repeat during war stories: "They taught us to kill, but never how to turn it off," and how he resented it all). Vonnegut and much later Joseph Heller, I could never put down. My grandfather passed years prior, but I could find his vicious cynicism despair and unwavering humor in their writings I assume time in the army helped solidify. I was abroad when Vonnegut died. I was studying in the Middle East, and the library at the universiy had a table with a bunch of Vonnegut books one day. I was so happy and I commented to friends how wonderful it was. Then they told me he died last night. I screamed loudly in the library, scaring many people. I went outside and smoked a cigarette, and was in funk the next few days. Like someone else commenting, I slowly stopped reading so I do not run out of his work. In tribute, speaking of shameless hacks, I would watch Comedy Central re-runs of Dangerfield's Back to School just to see Vonnegut's cameo and here the comedian scream: "D [on a paper you wrote, Kurt, for my English class], SCREW YOU VONNEGUT!" The idea of someone so influential taking himself so lightly has always been an influence for my "I will make inappropriate comical comments at everything, consequences be damned approach" I cannot even help it anymore.

    推荐《泰坦星的海妖》,历久弥新

    读来很好!有时间的话一定要看看《泰坦星的海妖》,我上个月重读,依然精彩。

    ulisesrmzroche查看英文原文

    Good read! If you have some time, definitely check out 'Sirens of Titan'. I re-read it last month and it's still great.

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