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谷歌能帮助翻译经典小说吗?
Can Google Help Translate a Classic Novel?
导读
这篇文章讨论用谷歌翻译来翻译一部经典小说(西语文学)的实际效果与局限。对写作者的价值在于:它清楚展示了字面翻译与传神表达之间的巨大鸿沟,也顺带提醒标题与措辞的准确性。
可以直接用的写作要点
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翻译或写作跨文化内容时,先问这个词在原文化里意味着什么,再找读者熟悉的类比,而不是逐字对应。
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遇到文化专属词,用“粗略译法加类比”(如把 jeitinho 说成“MacGyver 式的机灵解法”)比硬译更能让读者理解。
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一个形容词修饰哪个词,会改变整句意思;写完一句要检查每个修饰语的归属。
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标题要诚实反映内容,标题党会消耗读者信任,正如评论所说,更好的标题应是“谷歌翻译如何失败”。
HN 评论精选
翻译的真正难点是情感与文化语境而非字面词义,文化专属词往往需要“二次翻译”。
越想翻译之难,越觉得《星际迷航》TNG 第五季的“Darmok”是常态而非例外。不仅单词字面意思和短语结构难以复现,词语的情感色彩与文化语境(更不用说习语)几乎无法复制。奥运会提醒了我这一点:有新闻说巴西人有个口语词 jeitinho,大致可译为“MacGyver 式的机灵解法”,但就连这个粗略译法,对 90 年代后出生的美国母语者还需要再解释一遍。附带一提,“star-crossed lovers”(命运多舛的恋人)就是很难翻的短语,我把它丢进谷歌翻译得到 desventurados amantes,大概是“不幸的恋人”;也许翻译中丢了点东西,但至少谷歌没有给出“星”和“交叉”的字面直译。
danso查看英文原文
The more I think about the difficulties of translation, the more I think that "Darmok" of Star Trek: TNG season 5, is the rule rather than the exception. Not only is it difficult to replicate the literal meaning of individual words and the structure of phrases, but it seems inextricably hard to replicate the sentiment and cultural context of words (nevermind idioms). The Olympics recently reminded me of this, when news orgs reported that Brazillians had a colloquial word -- jeitinho -- that could be roughly translated as "MacGyver-ism" [0]. But even that rough translation needs a translation for all native English speakers who were born in America after the 90s. Side note: The phrase "star-crossed lovers" is something that comes to mind that would be hard to translate. I threw it into Google Translate [1] and got "desventurados amantes", which I guess means "wretched lovers" (when I threw "desventurados" back into Spanish to English). Maybe a little gets lost in the translation, but at least Google Translate didn't return whatever the literal translation for "star" and "crossed" are. [0] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-05/rio-olympic-ceremony-marks-festive-showing-of-brazil-cash-crunch [1] https://translate.google.com/#auto/es/star-crossed%20lovers
标题党损害文章,标题应准确反映内容。
剧透:不能。更好的标题应该是“谷歌翻译如何失败”。如果你对语言翻译或谷歌那些看似神奇的技术感兴趣,这篇文章其实挺有意思,但这个标题党标题对它毫无帮助。
wccrawford查看英文原文
Spoiler: No. A better title would have been, "How Google fails at translations". The piece is actually interesting to read if you're into either language translations or how Google does stuff that seems magical, but the clickbait headline isn't doing it any favors.
词性判断决定修饰关系,细节决定译文的准确性。
文中那句人工译文我觉得略有问题。我主张这样译:我离开城市,顺流而下,去与等候我的船独自会合,不知它何时到来。“encuentro”在这里似乎是名词,所以是“会合”;“solitario”是形容词,修饰“会合”,而不是描述叙述者离开的方式。
glibgil查看英文原文
> Salí de la ciudad, ribera abajo, al encuentro solitario del barco que aguardaba, sin saber cuándo vendría. > I left the city and made my way downriver alone, to meet the ship I awaited without knowing when it would come. The human translation seems a little wrong to me. I'll argue for the following: I left the city, downstream, to the solitary meeting of the ship I awaited, not knowing when it would arrive. "encuentro" seems to be a noun here, therefore "meeting". "solitario" is an adjective and describes the "meeting", not the narrator's manner of leaving.
机器翻译在整句层面仍不可靠,句子连贯仍是人的优势。
我觉得谷歌翻译擅长翻译句子片段,但一般翻不好完整句子。另外,谷歌翻译的日译英基本是胡言乱语。
rabboRubble查看英文原文
I find Google Translate good at translating sentence fragments but generally not full sentences. Also, any Google Translate Japanese to English translation is near jibberish.
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