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      从全量里捞

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部帖子,用关键词先捞出 40 分以上、可能和写作有关的约 1.1 万篇。

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      只留真正讲写作的

      由 AI 逐条判断是否和写作、讲故事、文风、出版有实质关系,剔除“写代码”“编辑器”这类字面撞车,并分进十个类别。

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      提炼可用的要点

      为值得读的帖子写中文导读,提炼 2-4 条可以直接用到自己写作里的要点,并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。内容由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    小说与文学2018theguardian.com

    《地海》:托尔金与乔治·R·R·马丁的劲敌(2015)

    Earthsea – A Rival to Tolkien and George RR Martin (2015)

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    这篇卫报文章把厄休拉·K·勒古恩的《地海》系列摆到托尔金和乔治·R·R·马丁旁边比较,讨论它凭什么值得同样高的位置。对写作者来说,它提供了一个很好的样本:世界观可以极其丰厚,故事骨架却可以很简单,真正撑起作品的是人物内在生活与视角的选择。评论区还补了一层——勒古恩晚年重回同一个世界,用年龄与性别的新眼光续写,这种“回访”本身就是一种写作方法。

    关键词 奇幻文学世界观构建成长小说叙事视角

    可以直接用的写作要点

    1. 01

      把主线交给一个正在从少年走向成年的视角人物,成长本身就是最稳的叙事引擎,不必靠堆叠事件。

    2. 02

      世界观可以丰富如中土,但故事结构要敢于简单;把力气花在少数关键人物的内在视角上,比复杂情节更耐读。

    3. 03

      同一套素材可以在人生不同阶段重写:勒古恩晚年用年龄与性别的新视角回到地海,让旧世界生出新的层次。

    4. 04

      警惕“布景式”世界:如果人物像纸片、世界只在主角到场时才存在,读者会觉得空洞;要让读者感到转角处一直有整个世界在等着。

    5. 05

      写“行动”与“存在”的张力:每一次行动都把你绑在它的后果上,真正的停顿极少——这类句子能让奇幻故事落到人的处境上。

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    《地海》是成长小说而非史诗,世界丰富但结构简单,力量来自人物内在视角;晚年续写带来年龄与性别的新眼光。

    《地海》系列和托尔金、马丁非常不同。前三本整体和单本都是经典的“成长小说”,每本的视角人物都是正从青春期后期走向成年的年轻人,这点上它更像《哈利·波特》《黑暗崛起》或《黑暗物质》。勒古恩为故事造的世界极其丰富独特,堪比中土和《冰与火之歌》的世界,但故事结构要简单得多。不过故事的“内在生活”更丰厚:像《沙丘》系列一样,小说大量时间沉在少数关键人物的视角深处——我觉得这也是它很难被满意地拍成电影的原因之一。而《地海》真正区别于几乎所有奇幻系列的地方在于,勒古恩在人生的晚得多的时候回到这个系列,又添了两本:同一个世界,却用不同的年龄与性别视角去看它。最初三部曲是经典的奇幻——天赋异禀的英雄拯救世界、走入传说;最后两本讲的则是这些人面对复杂又不令人满意的未来时发生了什么:个人的天赋不再有力,信念与假设被新一代挑战……

    snowwrestler查看英文原文

    The Earthsea cycle is very, very different from Tolkien and GRRM. The first three books are a classic "bildungsroman"--a coming of age story--both as a whole and individually. The point of view character in each novel is a young person, passing through late adolescence and into adulthood. In this respect it is more comparable to Harry Potter or The Dark Is Rising or perhaps His Dark Materials fantasy series. The world LeGuin builds for the story is incredibly rich and unique, like Middle Earth and the world of ASOIAF, but the structure of the stories are considerably simpler. However, the "inner life" of the stories are richer. Like the Dune series, the novels of Earthsea spend a lot of time deep in the perspective of a few key characters. I think it is one reason these novels are so hard to film in a satisfying way. That said, where Earthsea really distinguishes itself from almost any other fantasy series, is the fact that LeGuin came back to the series much later in her life and added two more books. These are set in the same world but regard it with different perspectives of age and gender. The original trilogy is classic fantasy about Our Heroes who are uniquely gifted and ultimately save the day and pass into legend. The final two books are about what happens to those people when they face the complicated and unsatisfying future: their personal gifts are no longer powerful, and their beliefs and assumptions are challenged by a new generation... and ultimately found to be not only flawed, but awful. Some of the things they defended were not absolutely good after all, but the lasting artifacts of earlier selfishness, bias, and bigotry. I resisted reading these later two novels for a long time because I enjoyed the purity of the stories in the original trilogy. But now having read them all, I find I can enjoy them in related but still somewhat separate ways. If the later two novels don't sound like your kind of thing, you could read the first three now, and then visit the last two books a decade or two (or three) later. That would align your perspective with LeGuin's when she wrote them.

    勒古恩的句子把“行动”与“存在”的哲理写进奇幻叙事,这是她胜过许多同类作者的地方。

    它绝对够格和托尔金并列,而且比马丁好得多。引勒古恩《最远的海岸》:“年轻时我必须在‘存在’的生活与‘行动’的生活之间选择,我像鳟鱼扑向飞蝇一样扑向后一种。但你做的每一件事、每一个行动,都把你绑在它自身和它的后果上,让你一次又一次地行动。于是你极少遇到像此刻这样、在行动与行动之间的一段空隙,可以停下来,单纯地存在;或者想一想,你究竟是谁。”

    zarkov99查看英文原文

    Definitely up there with Tolkien and much better than RR Martin. “When I was young, I had to choose between the life of being and the life of doing. And I leapt at the latter like a trout to a fly. But each deed you do, each act, binds you to itself and to its consequences, and makes you act again and yet again. Then very seldom do you come upon a space, a time like this, between act and act, when you may stop and simply be. Or wonder who, after all, you are.” ― Ursula K. Le Guin, The Farthest Shore

    反面的批评同样有教学价值:世界若只在主角到场时才“显形”、人物像纸片,读者会感到空洞。

    说实话,《地海》写得不错,但我认为远不及托尔金。托尔金让你觉得转角处就有一整个世界在等着你;《地海》更像一个你在里面探索的空壳,好像它并不真的存在,只是你到场时才出现——一种空洞感,人物也不太真实,像纸片剪出来的。三本我都读完也喜欢,但就是不如其他一些作品,我觉得那个世界有点单薄。

    Houyhnhnms查看英文原文

    Honestly, the Earthsea books were decent, but I didn't think they were anywhere near Tolkien. Tolkien gives you the feeling that there is an entire world waiting just around the corner. Earthsea feels like a shell that you are exploring. Like it doesn't really exist, it just appears when you show up, almost a hollow feeling where the characters don't really exist but are paper cutouts. I read all 3 and enjoyed them, but just not as good as some others and I thought the world was a bit lacking.

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